Ginger Stache Interview: Joyce Meyer Distortion
(Upgrading from incestal immorality to non-incestal immorality is still immorality!)

According to a testimony and interview with Ginger Stache, Joyce was a rape and abuse victim of her father, but she was also an enabler. Her mother, even more at fault, was a guardian enabler who should have put an end to the incest and had the old boy (her husband) jailed or put out of commission by reporting him to the police if not someone else. By not complaining and attesting to his rapacious wickedness unto others, the females became helpers in crime. Although incest disallows marriage, note to express virtue, the rape victim is expected to scream/make complaint of unwarranted sexual aggression according to Biblical law.

Because of conscience, a person or family that is ignorant of this law does not excuse them from their negligence. Joyce has made some great psychological and spiritual ground as to forgiveness-recovery from her abuse. However, she still has to work in the area of “entangled” relationship recovery and erroneous, self-justification: she has not recovered in the sexual damage-control aspect as she still condones living in a condemned state of fornication and sexual uncleanness.

The biggest “black eye” an abused girl can give to the Devil is to give her sexual uncleanness and singleness unto God, and let Him turn it into a life of single purity by not committing or continuing fornication. Joyce failed this Godly abstemiousness. She went on to marry in an unchaste condition and produce progeny. That was Joyce's will, not God's will. Society suffers when people neglect God's will, and the influence of unchecked sinners pollutes more of the society and land.

Of course, she suffered. My heart pours out for the little and innocent. However, Christians have a responsibility to make known God's will to people, and dupes of those that err. Because she was not able to help herself when she was very young does not give her immunity to do right when she becomes older. She was responsible to remain single until at least her father passed, and any other men that she may have had sex with before she married her man.

Actually, if her marriage is not sanctified, she should have it annulled. A man (or woman) that knows how to teach marriage principles and has an acceptable marriage to God would be glad to present the personal, cleanliness principles of his (or her) marriage to an audience and to the public. Being open about the female virginity prerequisite (or chaste widow) and male monogamy is expected. If she can't prove and openly explain that her marital circumstances were without fornication, then she has no business ignoring her situation. She must acknowledge her immorality and repent for herself, no one can repent for her. Even repenting R. G. Stair admitted an unclean marriage cannot be sanctified although his partner in immorality had left him by the time he announced his mistake.

Sure, she should have been forgiving because forgiveness is necessary to not become poisoned with anger and hate. Nevertheless, Joyce should not distort forgiving with enabling sin.

She should have attempted to have the sexual abuse stopped when she was a teen, even if it meant prosecution of her parents. Children are expected to obey their parents in the Lord, not their wicked desires. Passively avoiding help, social and legal options, to expose and prevent further harms, and doing things Joyce's way (not God's) only helped the Devil make the parental criminals feel there is no threat of community or state vengeance upon their wicked deeds.

Perhaps she may have felt it wasn't worthwhile asking for help during her home captivity. Unfortunately, our societies have become too diverse (not racially and culturally homogeneous) and uncaring to serve God, and protect their women as the Hebrews once did. Nevertheless, we as a people or government should not give up on protecting people. We need to make judgment against evil (I Cor. 6.2): “Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?” We need to develop our own communities in order to expect mutual concern.

As one who never learned the lesson not to promote the unrighteous, Joyce also still seems to have a sense of “false responsibility” by thinking she was obligated to help and support her criminal parents even after she escaped and left the physical bondage. Abraham, the patriarch, left his former home, a place where the people lived wickedly. He was not obligated to go back to his parents and support them. God had another way for him—God's way, and his followers became blessed! Lot did not turn back to Sodom.

Perhaps by her passivity toward not living a clean life herself and neglect to repent, her brother was discouraged. Under such conditions a righteous person would want to leave and not be a partaker of a corrupt ministry. (I don't know his personal circumstances with God or thoughts at the time he left.) However, a man recovering from addiction needs a relationship with God and to rely upon His strength and deliverance.

Nevertheless, Joyce did not have and still doesn't have a fully recovered life. I've studied the pitiful, sexual crisis in America for years, and I've never heard an unclean woman say, “The Devil stole my chastity and I am ready to live a life of singleness because of it.” Women can do without drugs, but to deny themselves a romantic companion and bear the stigma of being taken advantage of to the point of loss of a mate takes more self-denial than many have so weakly portrayed.

Concluding, Joyce failed single-relationship recovery after abuse. If she would have remained single after her affair with her father, she could have allowed herself to recover from the spiritual damage. However, since she ignored God and married without chastity, she committed fornication. God cannot approve of immorality, and Christians must not either (I Cor. 6-1-20). By marrying and refusing biblical counsel, she and her man brought God's judgment upon themselves. Did he and she forget Joyce's past? Does forgetting or forgiving cause or give reason for sanctification? No, of course it doesn't. Simply, I think they overlooked the issue of her uncleanness from former sexual relationships, but not without a cost: God will judge whoremongers and adulterers (Heb. 13:4). Her followers also seem to ignore God's judgment against an individual and people collectively as a whole.

God wants women in danger to be spiritually protected and to scream—complain loudly and passionately: make the information known to the public—so help can come to put an end to such abuse. Now, other families going through the same type of abuse will not be encouraged of outside help through Joyce's silent example of disobedient passivity and tolerance. Even worse and prolifically, other deceived women will be deceptively encouraged by Joyce's lack of Godly judgment and to marry under unchaste conditions. We live in a world that turns from sin to sin.

Won't work Joyce!

May God help us. Amen.

Passivity, Ignorance of Illicit Marriage, Self-justification, Self Righteousness Rant and Hypocritical Distortion
(Joyce picks her brother's substance abuse, penury and lack of responsibility as a comparison, and as a spiritually blind woman
who can't see her own faults attempts to justify her own condemned life)

A Brother's Blessing